From: sharon@panix.com (sharon)
  • Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 19:28:39 -0500

  • Interview with the Vampires
    Type O Negative are traveling through the night putting the bite on new
    fans across the country. Live Wire's Tomas Pascual gets his own coffin
    space on board the vampire express as he spends three days on the road with
    the kings of gothic metal. Sink your teeth into it!
    
         Dark shadows illuminate their destiny as they travel through the
    artery of rock n' roll lore. Waves crash and a melancholic melody echoes
    through the great house at Collinwood, as a reflection of the tristesa that
    accompanies passionate love lost. No more nights of blood and fire.
    Envision a promenade overlooking the New York harbor in an affluent section
    of Brooklyn. A peaceful park full of life, trees, and birds surrounded by
    a decaying urban jungle. A place to reflect on prior distress and disorder.
    A cross road for Peter. The calm before the storm for Type O Negative.
    
         The release of Bloody Kisses was followed by rumors of a breakup, no
    live shows, and the departure of original drummer, Sal. A few months
    following the album's release, Johnny Kelly joined and Type O played their
    first show since the album's release at Brooklyn's L'Amour. A sold out
    venue with heightened expectations witnessed Type O at their purest. The
    show was submerged in feedback and aural disarray. A total disaster,
    insuring the band were at the doorstep of success. In line with Fredrich
    Neitzche's philosophy, from total destruction comes triumph. There is no
    birth without blood. That night, backstage before the show, Peter assured
    me that "touring for this record will be as little as possible within the
    five boroughs of N. Y." So why am I en route to Reno, Nevada to meet up
    with the Type O guys, who have been touring nonstop for about 15 months, as
    Bloody Kisses approaches gold status? Is it because, as Peter would say
    "all men are liars?" That's a cool line, but honestly I believe it was in
    the cards.
    
    Day I:
    
         A municipal of slot machines encompasses the Reno airport. It is
    REALLY tacky. At the hotel I meet up with the Type O tour manager, Mike
    Amato. He was asked to be Type O's tour manager after the band saw his
    cunning while working with Motley Crue, when they were on tour with them.
    "When they first asked me, I wasn't sure if I should do it because I didn't
    know them. But even though I was not from Brooklyn (like the rest of the
    Type O tour squad) they made me feel completely welcome right away. It was
    only supposed to be for a couple of months initially, but here I am long
    after that. I've been offered to work on other tours but I've turned them
    down because this is a band that deserves that type of loyalty," Mike
    explains. Mike is cordial but assertive, someone the band clearly places
    their complete confidence in. As we chat in the hotel room a clearly
    hungover and somewhat dazed Kenny walks in and protests "That old bitch at
    the front desk yelled at me when I asked her where i could get coffee."
    
         Shortly after Peter comes in, and in no time Peter and I are on our
    way to the Z-Rock studios for his interview promoting this evening's
    headlining show at the Fallout Shelter. The station announced the gig on
    the way to the studio after which Pete, while gazing out of the car window,
    remarks, "This looks like Staten Island," as we drive through downtown
    Reno. At the station greeting the receptionist Peter introduces me as "his
    body guard." His naturally dry sense of humor carries the interview, to the
    chuckles of the in-the-studio bystanders.
    
         Later at the venue, Mike Amato informs Pete of another interview that
    needed to be done later that afternoon. A remark to which Pete replies by
    sarcastically showing his teeth in a vampire-ish hiss and flinching
    mannerism, similar to the way Christopher Lee reacts to a crucifix when
    portraying Dracula. The crew soundchecks and the band wallows in "dead
    time," the aspect of touring that devitalizes and provokes restless
    anxiety. How does the band cope? Peter strums a new song, "Green Man" on
    his unplugged bass in the dressing room. Johnny, while defiantly drinking
    Bud, in contrast to the band-favored Heineken, explains, "I like to read,
    usually books on the Mafia, serial killers, or dead rock stars. I'm over
    halfway through a book on John Gotti." He proudly notes that an incident
    (from another book) where Mafia hit-men hung their victims like meat and
    elicited their blood into their bathtub, "happened right by where I live in
    Brooklyn." I'd be less than honest if I didn't point out that I found that
    cool.
    
         After sound check, Josh and Pete go to nap, Mike gets concerned about
    security, Kenny disappears and Johnny and myself begin boozing it up. The
    local openers go on an hour early. Pete returns shortly prior to having to
    go on stage and opens his customary bottle of red wine. Tonight it's
    Seghesio red, "vintage Tuesday," Pete points out. After two prior
    cancellations in Reno, that were beyond Type O's control, at long last they
    played tonight.
    
         After the show, it turns out that there is a gay bar by the upstairs
    club bathroom, by which some girl instigates a bewildered Mr. Steele on an
    unreasonable impulse. "She punched me." Pete explains in disbelief, before
    reminiscing about his days as a New York City Parks Department worker. "A
    day does not go by that I don't think about it. I miss it extremely. I
    loved my job. But the city is not what it used to be and I feel it is
    collapsing on itself. I also left because I had never taken a chance at
    anything in my whole life, and I wanted to just really try something."
    Johnny and I hop around the nearby casinos with a couple of guys from the
    road crew, while everyone else goes to sleep. Over a late $1.99 steak
    dinner, the conversation centers on trying to figure out who had left a
    'mess' on the crew's bus. I'll not comment on what the nature of the 'mess'
    was...
    
         Before long into the first day, it was apparent that this was a close
    knit family touring unit; despite that the band members often go their
    separate ways, they are all in synch with each other and conscious of their
    individual bounds.
    
    Day II:
    
         I check out of the hotel room close to noon and meet up with Peter on
    the band's tour bus. We will soon be on our way to Sacramento, CA for the
    next Queensryche date of the tour. As the sun shines, my head pounds. Peter
    and I talk while he eats Granola cereal. He tells me about his childhood
    living in Brooklyn. "I was an average kid. I did well in school. I was
    raised in a Russian Orthodox and Roman Catholic family. So I got it from
    both sides. I went to a Catholic school for eight years. My parents were
    not strict in making me do anything. They were strict in the way that if I
    didn't do what they wanted, they attempted to make me feel very guilty
    about it. So I wasn't forced to go to church every Sunday, but if I didn't
    there would be mind games played about it. Parents aren't perfect, and I'm
    sure they thought they were doing the right thing. I don't blame them. I
    have five older sisters, great parents. I was a very fortunate kid. I was
    introverted, did not have much self confidence. I was into science fiction
    and horror movies a lot. I always had free reign of my basement as a kid. I
    always had fish tanks, cats and dogs. I love animals. I didn't have too
    many friends so I spent a lot of time in the house."
    
         "Carnivore was a way of attempting to deal with my masculinity," Pete
    says referring to his pre-Type O outfit. "Everything I wanted to be I threw
    into that band. The violence, the testosterone rage, and so on. People
    always tried to throw us in with Venom a lot. That was a huge compliment
    for me. But between the first and second album, I was going to a lot of
    hardcore shows and hanging out with Agnostic Front and this and that. It
    definitely rubbed off on me. Today, as opposed to back then, I don't think
    there is a hardcore scene anymore."
    
         When it came time to form Type O, Pete didn't have to look far. "I've
    known Josh since I was 12, since he moved on my block. Kenny and Johnny
    I've known since the time I was 18 when I first met Louie from Carnivore,
    and he was from that neighborhood, which was about a mile from my house."
    
         As we talked, Kenny was passed out in the bus. Then like a sudden
    crackle of thunder, Mike A. Comes into the bus announcing, "Show's
    canceled, we're going to Vegas!!" As my jaw drops, Pete moans, "Oh no, how
    long is this drive now?!" I came along for a tour story, I sure as hell got
    one. Time to re-plot the course. Back in Mike's hotel room Pete lounges on
    the bed, Mike hits the phone, and I'm momentarily stressed. What about the
    plane tix, hotel reservations, etc.? Pete assures that, "anything you might
    be thinking Mike is already doing, so don't even bother saying anything."
    The crew's bus had already left for Sacramento and after answering a string
    of 6 consecutive 911 pages was informed to head for Vegas. Within half an
    hour everything had been taken care of and we are on route to Vegas.
    
         The tranquil scenic beauty of the Nevada desert and thin rocky
    Mountain air is naturally intoxicating. But as hour upon hour passes by,
    the dead-time anxiety begins to sink in. This is where nerves of steel are
    tested for endurance. Deafened by the surrounding solitude of the rocky
    Mountains, Josh breaks the silence by remarking, "Now you get the real
    taste of the road-the suffering. It's a thrill a minute." Although this is
    a significant drive, he points out, "There have been times when we have
    spent 24 hours driving on this bus." Pete reads a chemistry text, and
    Johnny gazes at a video of Plant/Page on MTV. "Do you really find this
    interesting?" Pete asks him. Kenny eventually wakes up, thinking we're en
    route to Sacramento. "Kenny, sit down, we have to tell you something," Mike
    says.
    
         As we drive, Pete explains some of the lessons he's learned about
    traveling extensively in such close proximity, "What I learned was that no
    matter how much you love somebody, and I l love the guys, it is hard to
    spend that much time with anyone, no matter how great your feelings are for
    them. I think we just became a lot more tolerant of each other. I didn't
    really learn anything bout them being that I've known them for so long. I'm
    the only member in this band that doesn't smoke so we had to lay down some
    rules, because I felt it unfair to me, and Mike, who also does not smoke.
    So we compromise. Nothing drastic, we all have a lot of respect for each
    other and that goes a long way."
    
         "A lot of people think we're rich, very glamorous, and there are women
    every night, and we have drugs shoved up our noses and our asses, and it's
    very different from that. Josh, Mike and I have headaches every single day.
    I can never plan a day, like what happened today for instance. Things like
    this happen almost everyday. I spend a lot of time on the phone. I call my
    mother, I talk to Louie and Mark from Carnivore a lot. I don't want people
    to think that I think I am superior. Like last night that girl told me to
    my face that I was full of myself, then punched me in the stomach. Good
    thing I've been doing a lot of sit ups lately. I don't know what her motive
    was."
    
         We saw enough of Beatles video footage to choke Yoko with, but the
    Little Rascals livened the mood significantly. I had forgotten about
    Farina. Eventually ears popped and drowsiness takes its toll. The bus stops
    in a miniature town whose sole life force was built around a McDonalds (I'm
    totally serious). The drive continues. And then trough the vast desert a
    city of lights flickers in the distance. Civilization? Mecca? "This is the
    white trash leg of the tour," Pete proclaims. Oh...
    
         Shattered are my images of high rolling Mafia bosses and James Bond
    playing poker with KGB agents. This is really white trash hell. Waiting on
    line to check into the hotel Pete's expressions are subtly vociferous. As
    he observes the infinite rows of slot machines clammering he asks, "What
    you mean the disgust I have on my face?"
    
         Pete, Mike, and I go to dinner, where a Delta Burke look-alike waits
    on us interrupting our conversation every 3 seconds. Pete reflects on the
    band's early days. "When I first formed Repulsion (Type O Negative) after
    Carnivore broke up, I had a totally different concept in mind for the band.
    The whole concept of it mutated and it just became what it is now. About
    five years ago I had hit a critical period in my life, where I changed very
    much as a person. I consider the person I used to be dead, and I'm glad
    that he is. Insecure, frightened, confused, much like a lot of people I
    know today. Breaking up with that girl was a catalyst. It was the straw
    that broke the camel's back. I was with her about 2 1/2 years and it got to
    the point where I couldn't even talk to her anymore 'cause she was going to
    do what the hell she was going to do, no matter how I felt or what I said.
    I couldn't live with her or without her, so I was in limbo. I broke up with
    her, and she went crawling, but not back to me. So that hurt a lot." But in
    the end it was a positive experience, I add. "Definitely, I could not have
    stayed with her anyway, it was just a matter of time."
    
         "The best reward for me is when people tell me the songs I wrote
    helped them through a hard time, or they were happy to know they were not
    alone in this world with their feelings. And that someone else felt the
    same way they did," Pete reveals.
    
         The rest of the band and crew has scattered. Johnny and Kenny were at
    the Hard Rock, and Josh was up $300 at the tables. After dinner Pete and
    Mike, evidently the two mature adults of the caravan went to sleep, while I
    set out to try and meet up with the rest of the band.
    
    Day III:
    
         Meeting up with the band on the bus about five minutes late that noon,
    they informed me of the $50 fine for being tardy. Pete reveals, "I got up
    early this morning and stood in line with the old people at the hotel for
    breakfast." Did thoughts of euthanasia creep in perhaps? Certain members of
    the crew wrote 'I will not gamble' about fifty times on a black board that
    is in the backstage dressing room at the Las Vegas arena. Immediately upon
    arrival at the arena, the guard sitting at the door remembers Pete and co.
    "You're sitting right where I left you." jokes Peter to the old guy. It so
    happens that Vegas was the last date of Type O's tour with Pantera, where a
    notorious toilet paper incident had taken place between Type O and the
    Pantera guys while they were onstage. Pete explains, "We had a lot of fun
    with Pantera. Phil would come out and do songs with us. The whole idea was
    to disrupt each other's show as much as possible. They would try to lasso
    us on stage. They would constantly fuck with Kenny. They were throwing
    rubber animals out for him to trip over. It was all fun. It was the best
    tour we ever did, and I doubt any tour will ever come close."
    
         They get a sound-check tonight, which is uncommon. The enormous
    'green-dusk-around-trees' backdrop is simple yet effectively atmospheric.
    The Queensryche guys are private, and their audience is older, in parallel
    contrast to their previous tour with Pantera. The set list on the Pantera
    tour catered to a harder audience, with some faster cuts. The set tonight
    went in the opposite direction. Diversity of emotion, a distinct advantage
    Type O have over most all other bands. The tour is over for me, I would be
    flying home the next afternoon, but the routine continued for them. The
    Hammergear keeps spinning for them. Soon Type O would be off to do European
    festivals and then back to the US to polish off the second leg of
    Queensryche dates, possibly with one day off in July. The seemingly
    infinite tour continues for Type O. Pete departs with one final thought, "I
    used to think that I didn't have a life, now I know I don't have a life."
    Leben Heit Leben-Life is Life.
    
    
    
    
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